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Posted 24th May 2007 09:13


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Yeah, they didn't have tinted lenses in a Spitfire did they Grandad?

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Posted 24th May 2007 09:19


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Hi peeps, Tinted visors, personally not a fan, I feel that it reduces my vision, you are vulnerable on a bike as it is without reducing your chances further in my opinion. Iridium visors are effectively a tinted visor with a micro iridium coating that look flash, but you have to treat them with kid gloves 'cos they scratch really easily. If you get caught out at night that presents a problem also. Granted most new helmets have a quick release visor but that means carrying a spare with you which is agg in my opinion. I don't like being encumbered when riding.

Yes they are illegal, but so are small number plates, race pipes, speeding pulling wheelies etc. Personally if you want one I think you should be allowed to have one, most people wearing them want them for style over function anyway. I don't like wearing sunnies either, I just find them bloody uncomfortable.

The only reasonable argument I can think of is the journey east early and return west late, especially in winter.

Bob Heath used to offer visors with a graded tint, but alas Old Bobs visors are definitely inferior to an OE visor. Also a strip of leccy tape across the top of the visor helps alot, (bit like a car flip down visor).

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Posted 24th May 2007 10:07


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roadhoover (24/05/2007)
The only reasonable argument I can think of is the journey east early and return west late, especially in winter.

Not sure I agree with you there.  If you're facing low, bright sun, the last thing you want is something in front of your eyes that interferes with your eyes' ability to pick out detail.  The problem is that if the sun is directly in your eyes, your pupils contract and the shadows get even darker in comparison.  If you look away from the sun, even slightly, your eyes are actually pretty good at re-adjusting and seeing the detail.  If you wear shades/tints, the overall level of light is reduced, and although the sun seems less bright, the shadows get darker too.  The addition of a lens in front of your eyes tends to reduce contrast as well, which makes things even worse - and worse again if it's scratched or hazed.  The only time I wear shades is when the overall lighting level is too high (like a bright cloudy day) and it stops me wrinkling my brows and getting a headache.

At one point on my morning commute, I go up a slight rise and go through a double blind S-bend where there is a farm on one side (open gates, animals, farm vehicles, mud on the road) and a care home on the other (vehicles in and out, residents wandering in the road).  In December, just as you are 200m from this comedy collection of hazards, the sun appears between the hedges exactly at road level as you crest the hill.  You cannot avoid looking directly at it.  I've tried it all ways, both car and bike, shades, sun-visor, squinting, shutting eyes, doing nothing.  The only way to see anything at all is to slow down to ~10 mph, use the naked eye, get the car's sun-visor as low as possible and stare straight at the shadows.  Tints, shades etc. all make it worse, not better.  Your idea of a bit of tape across the top of the visor is one I will try.

On another point, although I reckon black visors look cool, I wonder if they are a problem in another way, by preventing eye-contact with car drivers and therefore making the rider seem anonymous and perhaps hostile (a bit like those foreign policemen who wear mirror shades).  I find eye contact with cagers and as much of a smile as you can transmit in a full-face lid work wonders in traffic.

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Posted 24th May 2007 12:27


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Well obviously everyone will have their diff views. I have yet to decide what i'll be doing to get round this problem. Personally i wouldn't feel safe wearing sunglasses under my lid, but we'll see what happens! My dad actually has some yellow sunglasses he used to wear under hit flying helmet, maybe i'll give them a go!!!

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Posted 25th May 2007 09:53


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Curious things, yellow visors!  They are supposed to improve your vision in poor conditions (you see a lot of yellow sunglasses sold as "driving glasses").  I don't know if this is true, but they have a rather odd effect.

In my early biking days, I used to wear a pisspot helmet with a flip-up visor (yeah, I know).  I bought a yellow visor and used it for about 6 months.  Whenever I got on the bike, I had the impression that it was about to rain.  Apparently, when the air is laden with moisture (as it is when rain is imminent), the light is refracted by the water vapour (or something) and moves towards the yellow end of the spectrum.  A yellow lens over the eyes gives the same effect and fools the brain into thinking it's going to rain.  (Mind you, I was living in North Wales at the time, and so it probably WAS about to rain.)

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Posted 25th May 2007 12:23


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I agree they're very odd!! You can get diff colours though so i wonder what they do!! They were popular (from what i remember) 10 years ago, but you don't see them around so much now!!  

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Posted 26th June 2007 09:54


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Yellow visors are slightly strnge. Back in the day when I was a pro Paintballer (Oh yes... I was!) a yellow visor in the woodland was a godsend! It makes all the green colours stand out a bit more so you can differentiate between all the foliage and your targets. Plus on a dark day, it did brighten things up a little. Certainly couldn't be used as night vision, but did brighten things up.

I used my Gold tinted visor for the first time yesterday. I was getting my bike out and looked up a very wet road with masses of glare coming off it. "Sod it' I thought, "just wear it and see what happens". Now, I know that the Police frown on these tinted/blacked out visors and can pull you over for it. So, to be on the safe side, I put my clear visor in a visor bag and clipped round my waist. That way, if the Police did pull me over, or I go home late, then I can change it.

I have to say, it worked well! It's not really dark in there, but it does reduce the sun glare and helped me to see where I was going.

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Ride safe, and look out for the Rainbow of Death!

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Roses are red, Violets are Blue, I'm a schizophrenic ..... and so am I!

Take pity on the man who invented the drawing board, when he screwed up, he had nothing to fall back on.

Stuff everything, I've always got my bike.

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Posted 26th June 2007 15:55


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As I understand it, you can wear a tinted visor quite legally if you are carrying a clear one.

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Posted 26th June 2007 16:46


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I'll be getting a tinted one soon, simply because i won't want to wear sunnies under my lid. Could be dangerous anyway unless their the sports ones that have a band all the way round the head!

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Posted 6th July 2007 06:38


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Black Dog (23/05/2007)

Clear visor + shades is good, as Lady P says, although for me that's dry sunny days only, as if you get shades misting up it is not something you can fix while riding along, and for that reason could be dangerous in the wrong conditions.  A couple of alternatives:

 

What are you doing in your sunglasses to make them mist up? Mine never mist up in any weather......Shoei do a pinlock visor for your helmet best bit of kit I have ever used it actually works no matter how hard you pant not alot of things work but this actually does....

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