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| When you refill your Scottoiler reservoir and you spot a few air bubbles in the feed pipe to the chain, you may wish to set the oiler to 'prime' to get the oil to flow through properly. When you have done this, don't forget to set the flow setting back to what it was before, otherwise you will dump half a litre of dirty chain oil all over the back of the bike, and anything else that happens to be in the vicinity of the back of the bike. Especially, do not do this when your passenger is wearing her brand-new textile jacket. Even more, do not do this if the jacket is PINK. And try to stop before the oil gets onto the rear tyre, as passengers rarely appreciate going sideways out of corners in the manner of Valentino Rossi. Chain oil is impossible to remove from Cordura, even after a whole afternoon spent with Fairy Liquid, Vanish and a small nail brush. New jackets are expensive. This has been a Public Service Announcement.
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| So I'm assuming the above was a description of the problems you faced when you and Mrs Dog went on your extended 40mile test run... whoops! Thank's for letting me know about the bubble issue though, I have just got one on my Fazer so I need to know the workings of it.
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| Scottoilers. Fantastic device and ultimate chain lubing, but as messy as feck. Look forward to degreasing your back wheel every weekend. Extended chain life versus filthy hoops. Got one on the venerable 9 and never use it. Prefer to paddock stand the bike and use Rock oil Chain wax. Applied when the chain is hot and adjusted, it clings very well, cuts drive chain noise and whilst we are in good weather only have to do it once a week. Wheels still needs cleaning but it isn't slick with oil and the tyre is dry. Clean your jacket Mr. Dog? If it's Cordura with a 'drop liner' waterproof layer, try taking all the armour and linings out and soak it in the bath. Luke warm water with a bit of washing powder. Give it a gentle knead, leave for an hour or so, gently squeeze the excess water out and then hang in a draughty place to dry. may not remove viscious stains but you'll be amazed at how much filth does come out. The most important thing is not damaging the drop liner. Or trust Pink!!
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| I'm very impressed with the Scottoiler and wouldn't be without it. It does a fantastic job of keeping the chain just wet enough, provided it is correctly adjusted. I measure it by how much goes on the numberplate. Setting 5 is the one for me. Any less and the chain dries out, any more and the plate gets covered in black specks. At 5, the chain stays clean and just slightly wet with oil. Admittedly, you do get some on the rear rim, but but it's not a lot and at the correct adjustment this doesn't get on the tyre. It's a simple matter to wipe off, if it bothers you. I used chain wax on the XT, but it was such a pain keeping it off the tyre and brake disc. Brakes, lubricants, bad idea. Mind, I can remember the days of boiling the chain in a pan of grease on yer Mum's kitchen stove and hanging it from the washing rack to "set". Once a week in the winter, if you were meticulous. Thank f*ck those days are over.
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| My GZ is a bit like that. because it's all open to the elements and without a scottoiler, it always needs adjustment and lube. Can get quite annoying at times. Why can't a manufacturer make a chain that doesn't stretch? Having said that, I've seen a gold plated chain for sale in a mag, aparently it doesn't stretch as easy because of the compunds. Set you back about 40 quid though.
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Mazz (02/05/2007)
Why can't a manufacturer make a chain that doesn't stretch?Same reason they can't make a tyre that lasts 100K miles. Chains are essentially consumables. Chain "stretch" isn't stretch at all - it's wear. Your average chain has ~115 links. Each link is connected to the next by a roller. If you imagine 0.05mm wear in each roller, that's nearly 6mm wear over the whole length of the chain, which equates to 3mm of axle movement to take up the slack. In other words, tiny amounts of wear in the rollers lead to large amounts of "stretch" in the chain. The way to reduce this is to make sure that the rollers are well lubricated. In the old days, you somehow got oil and/or grease onto the chain and hoped it would penetrate between the roller surfaces and stay there. The lube got out, the rain and grit got in, and the chain was scrap in no time flat. O-ring chains (which now seem standard these days) employ a rubber seal to keep the lube in and the crap out, and so the chains last much longer, but they still wear. Lubing the outside of the chain (a la Scottoiler) is more to keep the chain clean and free from rust than it is to lube the rollers, which are sealed, although it should give a marginal increase in efficiency as it will reduce friction between chain and sprocket teeth.
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