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RE: Smoke-free?

rbon450 — Sun, 19 Jun 2011 11:12:38 GMT

It is a tough job. I have seen it many time. all the habits people can not give up so easily. It is near to impossible. If you try heard you will be successful. By the way i am also a smoker. I do not want to try to smoke free.

RE: Smoke-free?

Mazz — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:20:59 GMT

Pubs will be ok I think. You can just step outside and have a ciggy, go back in and drink, repeat the process.

Clubs, on the other hand, are going to suffer. If there is no smoking in a public building then how will the serious smokers cope without their beloved 'fag'? The doormen aren't going to be letting people out to have a smoke, then let them back in again. Peple will stop going because of the ban, they'll hit the bars and pubs (which could stay open along with the clubs as somkers will want to stay out later) so that way they can drink and smoke.

Bingo halls will be hit too. More people will stay home and play online so they can smoke to their own content.

RE: Smoke-free?

Ems — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:31:26 GMT

Well, i read in the news today that clubs are installing new air fresheners to pump out either strawberry, vanilla, & (something else?!!!) smells!!. They reacon that once the ban takes hold in a few weeks, new smells will surface, like vomit, toilet smells, etc. Nice eh! I doubt it'll be very popular tho, as tbh a smell like that all nite will make me feel ill lol, let alone what drunks will think of it!!

What do you guy's think? I seriously don't think they'll need it, but thats me

RE: Smoke-free?

Ems — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:28:31 GMT

What do you guy's think? I seriously don't think they'll need it, but thats me

RE: Smoke-free?

Black Dog — Fri, 25 May 2007 09:26:15 GMT

Although I support the ban for personal reasons, as a recent giver-upper I'm about half-way to Lady P on this. Smoking isn't like child abuse or terrorism - it's not something that must be stamped out at all costs and to hell with everyone's rights.

I favour a segregated system. Smoking banned from all public buildings (e.g. workplaces, libraries, council offices etc). All leisure premises (pubs, restaurants, clubs etc) to formally declare their status and place a clearly visible notice at all entrances:

This establishment is 100% non-smoking
This establishment allows smoking
This establishment has segregated smoking areas

Then anyone can see clearly when the score is before they set foot on the premises. If someone wants a smoke-free environment, go for the non-smoking places. If you don't mind either way, use either of the others. The market will soon sort out which type of establishment is the more popular, and proprietors will then change the status of their premises to gain the most customers. If smoke-free places are as popular as the non-smoking people predict, almost all premises will follow the money/customers.

I remember a pub in Appletreewick, near Leeds, going non-smoking back in the 70s. It was unique, and the event made all the local papers. It lasted about a week.

RE: Smoke-free?

Mazz — Fri, 25 May 2007 08:57:48 GMT

lady p (24/05/2007)

Just to jump on the soap box, I think its disgusting, I think if the owner of the premises wants to have people in there smoking then thats up to them, its up to a smoker to walk into a smoke filled room but to ban us the privilage of getting it smokey is disgusting, I really do think this is against my human rights to stop me smoking when I go out for a pint. I can buy them legally but I cant smoke them, its disgusting I am fuming about it and very very annoyed. Next they will be saying you can buy booze but you may be charged with binge drinking so you can only have 2 bit like buying asprin in Tescos (you can only buy two boxes at a time).

Then they will be banning bloody canabis. They are taking all my vice's away

Well LadyP, welcome back!!!

I think you've missed the point on the Asprin side. Honest to god, the reason for that is they don't want to contribute to someones suicide. I used to work there and I was told that buy managment.

Anyways, look at it from the flipside. If you're a non-smoker, why should you have to put up with smoke? It's not fair to make people breathe your smoke, and essentially, that's what we're doing. Because it's an enclosed space, it can't escape. A/C units don't filter the air, only blow it around so they don't help. An open window does something at least, but it won't get rid of the smell. The whole reason for this ban is because of the second hand smoke issue. Non-smokers enjoy a drink as well, but they don't want to have to sit there and put up with us smoking around them, and I can understand that.

I'm all for this ban. It'll help me to quit, and I can go up my local for a drink without smelling so bad when I come home.

I understand your point LadyP, but I think the majority of the country (and a fair few smokers) will be behind this ban. Besides, it's not like we can't go outside and have a puff.

RE: Smoke-free?

Ems — Thu, 24 May 2007 21:01:15 GMT

I agree with them banning it from public places like restaurants etc. But when it comes to pubs and clubs, i seriously don't think it will work. 80% of the people that go to them smoke and i can see a lot of people getting arrested or banned over it. How do they think they're goin to stop drunk lads etc lighting up on a nite out!! Will be very interesting to read/hear the stories to come!

RE: Smoke-free?

lady p — Thu, 24 May 2007 18:21:43 GMT

Then they will be banning bloody canabis. They are taking all my vice's away

RE: Smoke-free?

Ems — Thu, 24 May 2007 12:18:02 GMT

Ahhhhh i see! Well i'm glad you got it all sorted!! I'm sure if they were good enough friends they would still be about! Might be interesting for you to see how much they've changed!!

RE: Smoke-free?

Black Dog — Thu, 24 May 2007 09:43:42 GMT

Bit more complicated than that. I was married to a lady who was a bit - er - political. When we gave up at the same time, she made our house completely smoke-free (this was at a time when that was still a bit unusual[1]) and made any of our smoking friends feel very unwelcome. I lost a couple of good mates, who just didn't want the hassle and stopped visiting. Loyalty to the spouse made me go along with it. I learned my lesson, though.

Needless to say, we are no longer together.

[1] Funny, that. Even non-smokers used to put up with people smoking in their houses and didn't feel able to say no. As a smoker, I used to think I was being really polite by asking if I could light up first. Just been cross-referencing the dates in my head, and that would have been about 1980. Declaring your house a no-smoking area was being radical.

RE: Smoke-free?

Ems — Wed, 23 May 2007 19:52:24 GMT

You lost a few mates coz u gave up smoking?! Thats weird! Unless it was your choice coz u locked yourself away. Otherwise, their loss!

RE: Smoke-free?

Black Dog — Wed, 23 May 2007 16:30:00 GMT

To be honest, it doesn't bother me that much. Once I decide to do something, anything which makes it more difficult usually spurs me on to be even more determined. I blame an authoritarian father So Mrs Dog lighting up simply makes me think "silly thing, glad I don't do that any more". I can be around smokers no problem. I was out with one last night, and was quite happy to go outside into the smoking area with him. It's almost a test of will, confirming that you really have given up.

Plus there's all the effort of trying not to sound like an ****. Nothing worse than a reformed smoker! I lost a few mates when I gave up the first time, long ago.

RE: Smoke-free?

Ems — Wed, 23 May 2007 16:11:19 GMT

Cheers Well done to you too. Altho i can imagine how hard it is if your Mrs still smokes.

I'm all for the ban, i think it's a great idea tbh!

RE: Smoke-free?

Black Dog — Wed, 23 May 2007 15:58:37 GMT

16 months - well done, Ems! I've just managed 16 weeks.

I really don't like all the nanny state stuff this Govt seems insisting upon smothering us with, but I have to say this one is a good thing. I go out to the pub far more now than I did before the ban (I live in Wales). It's a really pleasant experience again. As a recent giver-upper, I find the ban in all public spaces to be really helpful.

Now to get Mrs Dog to give up. Won't be easy.

RE: Smoke-free?

Mazz — Wed, 23 May 2007 13:38:22 GMT

Damn it, they'll ban porn next!

I'm a smoker, but to be honest, I'm looking forward to this new rule. I think it'll help me loads to stop, and I can go for a drink up my local and not come home stinking of smoke! Win, Win really.

RE: Smoke-free?

Ems — Wed, 23 May 2007 12:28:56 GMT

Ha ha!! I'm pleased to say i gave up 16 months ago!!!!

Smoke-free?

Black Dog — Wed, 23 May 2007 10:59:30 GMT

From 1 July (in England, and already in Wales), it will be illegal to smoke in a public enclosed space. Is this forum defined as an "enclosed space" within the meaning of the Act? In which case, any posters wishing to smoke will have to log out and have a fag elsewhere before logging back in and enjoying the company.